2017 Pierce SABER: complaints, problems and recalls
Explore the records behind recurring owner reports.
Key facts
2 owner complaints analyzed
3 distinct recall campaigns
29,549 mi median reported failure mileage
Scope: 2017 model year. Data snapshot: . 2 complaints include usable failure mileage.
Most common problems
Engine is the most frequently named component, appearing in 2 of 2 complaints (100.0%). A complaint can name multiple components.
Component breakdown
Number of unique complaints naming each component. Top eight shown.
| Category | Count |
|---|---|
| Engine | 2 |
Engine: 2
Reported problems by failure mileage
Complaint counts in mileage bands. These are not failure rates per vehicle or mile.
| Category | Count |
|---|---|
| Under 25,000 | 0 |
| 25,000 to 49,999 | 2 |
| 50,000 to 74,999 | 0 |
| 75,000 to 99,999 | 0 |
| 100,000 to 149,999 | 0 |
| 150,000 and above | 0 |
Under 25,000: 0; 25,000 to 49,999: 2; 50,000 to 74,999: 0; 75,000 to 99,999: 0; 100,000 to 149,999: 0; 150,000 and above: 0
25,000 to 49,999 miles has the most reports with usable mileage (2). 0 complaints have missing, zero or invalid mileage.
Complaints over time
Year the complaint was filed, not the vehicle model year or incident year. The snapshot year is partial.
| Category | Count |
|---|---|
| 2019 | 2 |
2019: 2
Pattern summary
Engine leads the component reports. Use these patterns to inspect individual reports and prepare questions for a mechanic.
Calculated from recorded counts. An AI narrative has not been published for this selection.
Examples from the source records
Examples provide context, not a representative sample or a verified diagnosis.
Owner report 11243740 · 2019-08-13 (August 13, 2019)
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 (NA) PIERCE SABER 2017 FIRE TRUCK. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE PRODUCED POOR DEF FLUID QUALITY IN THE DEF FLUID SENSOR, WHICH CAUSED THE VEHICLE TO DERATE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS CONTACTED AND SENT NEW DEF TANK HEADERS THAT WERE INSTALLED AT THE FIRE STATION EXPERIENCING MULTIPLE REPEAT FAILURES IN 6 TRUCKS ALL 2017 MODELS. THE DEF TANK IS BUILT FOR PIERCE BY AN OUTSIDE VENDOR. PIERCE HAS NOT SOLVED THE PROBLEM. ALL 6 TRUCKS EXPERIENCING MULTIPLE DEF HEADER DEF QUALITY FAULTS. THE DEALER WAS NOT CONTACTED. THE …
Owner-reported narrative. 29,549 miles reported. Look up ODI 11243740 at NHTSA ↗
Owner report 11243741 · 2019-08-13 (August 13, 2019)
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 PIERCE FIRE TRUCK. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE PRODUCED POOR DEF FAULT CODES IN THE DEF FLUID SENSOR, WHICH CAUSED THE VEHICLE TO DECELERATE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS CONTACTED AND SENT NEW DEF TANK HEADERS THAT WERE INSTALLED AT THE FIRE STATION. THE DEALER WAS NOT CONTACTED. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 29,549. *BF *TR
Owner-reported narrative. 29,549 miles reported. Look up ODI 11243741 at NHTSA ↗
Recall history
3 distinct campaigns affect this selection. Announcement dates below are different from vehicle model years. A campaign may cover multiple years.
18V756000 · Exterior Lighting:Brake Lights
Reported: 2018-10-26 (October 26, 2018)
Pierce Manufacturing (Pierce) is recalling certain 2017-2018 Pierce Arrow XT, Dash, Enforcer, Impel, Quantum, Saber, Velocity, and Commercial vehicles equipped with Whelen accessory brake lights. Depending on the specific wiring of the vehicle, these brake lights may illuminate when the brake pedal has not been pressed. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) number 108, "Lamps, Reflective Devices, and Associated Equipment."
Consequence: If the brake lights incorrectly illuminate, it can confuse other drivers, possibly increasing the risk of a crash.
Remedy: Pierce will notify owners, and Whelen will inspect the vehicles and replace the brake lights, as necessary, free of charge. The recall began March 4, 2019. Owners may contact Pierce customer service at 1-888-974-3723.
NHTSA campaign record ↗21V222000 · Exterior Lighting:Tail Lights | Exterior Lighting:Turn Signal | Exterior Lighting:Brake Lights | Exterior Lighting:Back Up Lights
Reported: 2021-03-30 (March 30, 2021)
Pierce Manufacturing (Pierce) is recalling certain 2016-2018 Enforcer, Freightliner and Saber vehicles equipped with ECCO Holdings Code 3 7x9 Stop-Tail-Turn Reverse All-in-One LED stop, tail, turn, and reverse lights. The rear LED lights may be too bright. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard number 108, "Lamps, Reflective Devices, and Associated Equipment."
Consequence: The excessive brightness may negatively affect the vision of other drivers, increasing the risk of a crash.
Remedy: Pierce will notify owners, and dealers will provide a filter kit to be installed in the rear lights, free of charge. The recall is expected to begin April 26, 2021. Owners may contact Pierce customer service at 1-888-974-3723.
NHTSA campaign record ↗21V394000 · Fuel System, Diesel:Fuel Injection System:Fuel Rail
Reported: 2021-05-26 (May 26, 2021)
Pierce Manufacturing (Pierce) is recalling certain 2017-2021 Arrow XT, Enforcer, Impel, Quantum, Saber, and Velocity vehicles. The sealing washer may not seat correctly in the pilot bore holes, allowing the high pressure fuel rail assembly to leak.
Consequence: A fuel leak in the presence of an ignition source increases the risk of a fire.
Remedy: Dealers will inspect the rail threads and fuel lines, and replace the rail as necessary, free of charge. Interim notification letters were mailed to owners on June 24, 2021. Owner notification letters were mailed July 30, 2021. Owners may contact Pierce customer service at 1-888-974-3723.
NHTSA campaign record ↗